Invasions & Evasions
Chomsky talks about tinkerers vs. overhaulers. He says, “We should be in favor of both. Sometimes tinkering with the system can be of great help to people.” And addressing media reform, he says, “If you can induce the media to give somewhat fairer treatment of significant issues, that’s all to the good. It doesn’t change anything fundamental, but it can make a difference.” The conversation moves on to imperialism and how the U.S. power structure creates a web of euphemisms and fantasies to obscure its interventionist policies. He discusses Israel and the intellectual culture in the U.S. that supports it. He then goes on to discuss Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, Jimmy Carter’s book, and the ensuing hysteria about it. Interview by David Barsamian.
Noam Chomsky, by any measure, has led a most extraordinary life. In one index he is ranked as the eighth most cited person in history, right up there with Aristotle, Shakespeare, Marx, Plato and Freud. His contributions to modern linguistics are legendary. In addition to his pioneering work in that field, he has been a leading voice for peace and social justice for many decades. Chris Hedges says he is “America’s greatest intellectual” who “makes the powerful, as well as their liberal apologists, deeply uncomfortable.” He is Institute Professor Emeritus in the Department of Linguistics and Philosophy at MIT and Laureate Professor of Linguistics and Haury Chair in the Program in Environment and Social Justice at the University of Arizona. At 93, he is still active; writing and giving interviews to the media all over the world. He is the author of scores of books, including Propaganda & the Public Mind, How the World Works, Power Systems and Global Discontents with David Barsamian. His latest books are Climate Crisis and the Global Green New Deal, Consequences of Capitalism: Manufacturing Discontent and Resistance, and Chronicles of Dissent: Collected Interviews with David Barsamian, 1984-1996.