Ending Cycles of Violence: Israel & Palestine
The conflict between Israel and Palestine is in a new and extremely deadly period with many thousand dead, wounded and displaced. The battleground is the narrow coastal enclave of Gaza, home to over two million Palestinian Arabs. Often called the world’s largest open-air prison it is ruled by Hamas and has been subjected to an Israeli blockade since 2007. On October 7 Hamas launched a horrific attack on Israel killing some 1,200, taking over 200 hostages and triggering the latest Gaza-Israeli war. While the media focus on the Hamas attack and the Israeli response there is scant background or history. A closer examination reveals the conflict’s deep-rooted causes. If they are not addressed the cycles of violence will continue. As Middle East expert Phyllis Bennis says, “We have to do the hard work of looking at context.”
Interviewed by David Barsamian.
Speaker
Phyllis Bennis
Phyllis Bennis, a Middle East expert, is a Fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies and directs its New Internationalism Project. She has appeared on PBS, NPR, BBC, and CBC. She is the author of many books including Before & After: U.S. Foreign Policy and the September 11th Crisis and Calling the Shots: How Washington Dominates Today’s UN. Her latest books are Understanding the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict and Challenging Empire.
From a listener in WA state –
I am listening to your conversation with Bennis and it strikes me that she is an unreliable ally. This reflexive bringing up of the ‘horrors’ of October 7 without any mention of the daily murder of Palestinians that was the history of 2023, before October is myopic. The IDF killed many more than the 1,200 civilians Hamas killed, and that was all before October 7. Why is that never mentioned? That really bothers me, that one side matters and one passes without mention. And somehow she cannot bring herself to really condemn the mass murder of 15,000 innocent civilians in Gaza or more so far, at least in the context of discussing violence. How can any decent person bring up and condemn October 7 without even mentioning that that horror was a tiny fraction of the horror of Palestinian existence? This deferential talk about Israeli deaths seems to me just racist, and I expect better from her, very disappointed in that.
From a listener in Albuquerque –
Excellent program.
Susan Sushma Clark –
Incredible putting into context both the history and the as-you-watch annihilation of Palestinians.
From a listener in Colorado –
This interview with Phyllis Bennis is very good and something a lot of people should read. She is very thoughtful.
From a peace activist –
Great Interview with Phyllis Bennis.
Gary O’Connor –
Five stars for Alternative Radio and Phyllis!
Jake Javanshir –
For all the years that I listen from time to time to P.Bennis, always impressed by her knowledge and clear delivery. She clearly and objectively tells the truths . She feels the pain of the oppressed.
I’m Jewish and ex Israeli.